The ladies were so into making their cards today that it wasn't much talking going on. Since we changed our class technique, the ladies get right down to business. We don't make kits for them anymore. We just bring some of the materials and we have them to bring some of their materials and they make the three cards we chose. They like to add their own touch ever now and then. But whatever the case may be, the ladies really were serious, can't you tell.